May 31, 2009

(The information presented in this article has been submitted by a source who wishes to remain anonymous. The text has been rewritten to hide the source’s identity.)

I was browsing around the Internet, Googling random words and phrases, when it suddenly struck me to Google for information about Phil, the owner and lead developer of DDO. To my horror, I come across a page that lists one “Cameron Clifford” as a “top executive” of MyCar.com,[1] which is a website Phil once owned but has since sold.

I started to Google information about this Mr Clifford, and found some interesting information. The following are some brief bullet points that summarize the information I obtained through my research.

  • Mr Clifford was a fundamental force behind the release of MyCar, and was even listed as “Vice President” (along with Crystal [Phil's wife]) and the head of “Business Operations”.[2]
  • On Mr Clifford’s portfolio website, a resume can be downloaded.[3] In this resume, Clifford appears to have been not only crucial in the building of MyCar but also HomeBuying.com, another of Phil’s websites. This is important, because HomeBuying.com is the model to which many of Phil’s new websites are built off of.[4]
  • Mysteriously though, Mr Clifford all-of-a-sudden vanishes. Compare the company photo for DateFree (one of Phil’s later sites after MyCar but still before DDO),[5] with the photoshopped company photo for DDO.[6] Something fishy is going on.
  • Phil is known for reusing materials on his websites. Compare the DateFree forums with DDO’s.[7] Or look at the little tiny pictures he shares across DDO, DORK, and the Inc websites. Or compare HomeBuying’s layout with the Inc websites.[4]

Conclusion: Why is it that production suddenly slowed down when this Cameron guy left? Could this be why v3 was so delayed and why we no longer get any new features? Could it be that Phil simply does not know how to code? That he is a businessman, and not a website maker?

If you don’t buy this conspiracy, that’s OK. At the very least, you can get a kick out of hearing Phil’s voice,[5] and knowing that Phil doesn’t go to church.[8]

Sources:
[1] http://portfolio.com/…
[2] http://dateauto.com/…
[3] http://cameronclifford.com/resume.doc
[4] Compare the screenshot of HomeBuying found on WebCorp’s website with the layout of Loans-Inc (one of Phil’s new websites).
[5] http://prwebpodcast.com/…
[6] http://debate.com/…
[7] http://web.archive.org/…
[8] http://web.archive.org/…


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May 8, 2009

(Mini news story: You can join s0m31john’s eighteenth birthday party by clicking here!)

On 6 May 2009 the twins Mongoose and Mongeese were banned from DDO.

In response, wjmelements posted the thread DDO Discriminates against twins?, and wrote “Supposedly, they were accused of being a double-account. I know them in real life… They are twins. I call for the immediate reactivation of their accounts, unless there is legitimate reason for their banning.”

crackofdawn_Jr agreed, writing “I know them as well. Seriously, all together they had a total of like 30 debates. How many vote bombers do THAT many debates?”

Phil was contacted, and Mongoose and Mongeese’s accounts were quickly reinstated. Phil wrote, “their accounts were closed because they appeared to be the same person, and would have been in violation of the terms of use…ie…vote bombing. Thanks to some of the other members, support was notified and I have since reinstated their accounts…and it is good. Go now and be fruitful.”

Many users thanked the moderator including mongoose/geese, PoeJoe, and wjmelements.

In other news: prominent member som31john has been begging all day long for an acknowledgement of his birthday.  So without further adieu:

Congratulations on going eighteen years without being inside a single vagina.  We here at Debatefans.com realize this achievement to be quite the feat, so we would like to congratulate you on all of the hard work and effort you have put into  repulsing all women everywhere.  Congratulations, anti-Casanova!


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April 17, 2009

Phil


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March 9, 2009

Major changes are happening at Debate.org, seemingly out of the blue. On March 3rd, win ratios saw drastic changes overnight as Phil, the site’s administrator and creator, deleted all votes formerly set by closed accounts, thirty of which had recently been identified as belonging to a single vote bomber. Victims of malicious vote bombing breathed a sigh of relief as their win ratios were restored to reality. Those whose votes came primarily from these closed accounts have since exhibited less than positive reactions at witnessing their wins converted into losses. Whether this turn of events has been beneficial or destructive, you may be interested to know the story that led to this dramatic action and the prospect of votes becoming public.

It’s difficult to determine exactly when the butterfly effect began, but this story begins with whining. On February 25th, I sent a complaint directly to Phil explaining my frustration with getting vote bombed and my waning enthusiasm for Debate.org. In good fashion, Phil affirmed the problem and offered to implement any technically feasible idea I might have to solve the problem. As tempting as it was to offer what I felt would be ideal, I decided to counter Phil’s offer with this:  a private focus group whose goal was to formulate a means by which vote abuse could be deterred.

Phil agreed, so I set out to select the group’s members. The primary criteria was activity, so I chose from the pool of members often seen in the forums and in debate. From there I set out to build a heterogenous panel of members, varying in age, gender, and political leanings, to ensure as best as possible those involved would represent the site’s larger demographic. On February 27th, the focus group launched with members beem0r, InquireTruth, Johnicle, JustCallMeTarzan, KRFournier, Logical-Master, PoeJoe, Ragnar-Rahl, JBlake, RoyLatham, Tatarize, and theLwerd–with Phil directly participating as the technical informant.

As one might imagine, the discussion saw a flood of ideas and a drought of agreement. It was perhaps naïve to think debators could reach a consensus, but in the end unity was unnecessary. During the interchange, Phil revealed having researched the theory that Josh was using multiple accounts, but found the evidence inconclusive. On March 2nd, Logical-Master asked Phil to investigate a specific debate on the basis of additional evidence he had previously obtained. Armed with this new evidence, Phil confirmed 30 accounts belonging to Joshandr and vowed “to pull an all nighter to write the program to reverse these votes.” The next day, justice was meted.

Vote removal was never really discussed at length, mostly because the group was focusing more on prevention than cure. In the end, however, the panel did agree that vote removal was an excellent addition to Debate.org. The group was so pleased with the change that discussion on the proposed prevention mechanisms slowed to a halt. With that, I summarized the proposals and submitted them to Phil for his future consideration. They are:

Review Board: RFDs required. Voters choose whether public or secret. Approved moderators can review all RFDs and elevate suspicious voting. Optionally: 3 debate minimum to vote.

Judge Panel: 10 judges selected by Phil. Optionally: Members apply to become judges, approved by 2 judges, judges can remove another judge with majority consensus, non-judges can still vote but with only 1 point.

Vote Points: Randomly select X active members to receive X vote points that expire (like currency). Activity is algorithmically quantified by participation in debates, tagging debates, etc. All members can tag a debate as suspicious (”con-biased” “pro-biased” “wrongly decided”), worth reading (”clever” “well researched” “close battle”), etc.

Debate Minimum: Voting privileges granted after completion of X debates. Optionally: Moderator presence to prevent spam debates.

Win Minimum: Voting privileges granted after attaining X wins.

Mandatory Public RFDs: RFDs required and always public. Users can report suspicious voting activity.

Voter Approval Queue: 3 Steps to become voter. Step 1, verify identity via mobile phone. Step 2, complete three debates. Step 3, moderator approval.

Reputation Points: Earn points for doing good deeds: debating, leaving RFDs, etc. Lose points for doing bad deeds: being reported or forfeiting debates. Milestones grant privileges, X points to enable voting, etc.

Moderator Presence: General moderation in the vein of other sites. Moderates forums, votes, and debates for abuse.

Public Voting: All votes visible to all users.

    If the focus group is any indication, I’m certain the readers will be at odds as to which of these ideas have the most merit. Yet I’m also certain the readers will agree Debate.org must never stop evolving. It remains to be seen the effectiveness of removing closed account votes and publicizing ballots. Even if these ultimately give way to more sophisticated systems, doing nothing only serves to further discourage and dissuade loyal members. Whatever the outcome, I for one extend my deep and sincere gratitude to Phil and the other focus group members for caring enough about the integrity of Debate.org to do whatever they can to level the playing field.


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